08GatorBait wrote:JdPat04 wrote:sooners4life98 wrote:08GatorBait wrote:I would go
Shawn Michaels
Undertaker
Ric Flair
The Hitman
Randy Savage(seriously underrated wrestler)
The Rock
Stone Cold(both for their mic skill)
Jericho
Hogan
Kurt Angle/RVD/Sting as far as best I've seen
I agree. Savage was the shit. :rock
Id put Savage over taker and Bret.
Angle is also better than hogan and Jericho and truly he would be better than the Rock and SCSA because Angle was also good on the mic and his wrestling skills were 2nd to none.
I can't put him over Rock or Stone Cold because of how revolutionary their face and heels were. Angle wasn't nearly as good a heel nor hero but absolutely a better wrestler. Should have put him over Hogan and tied with jericho. It's hard to really balance. The things Hogan, Rock, Stone Cold did on the mic were just legendary. In a event that is staged, the ones at selling it the best at some point become the best at it too don't they? It seems really hard to be technical AND great at the other things. It's why I had Hart so high and Jericho above Angle.
Hogan was revolutionary because he was by himself.
Angle was there in the middle of an established hogan Nash mankind SCSA rock DX and a plethora of other bad ass wrestlers. You forget about that, he came in the middle of all of that without all of the background training and without all of the working in the independents circuits which is why i out Angle where I did.
Hart was hart but i still put Rock SCSA above him too.
SCSA used to be a more wrestling technician like the others until he broke his neck and thats whenever he turned into the style he used at the end.
I also will give SCSA more credit because he made his own gimmick.
I give hogan less credit because he was all push from Vince sr and Vince jr. Without SCSA fighting for his shit and having his own ideas and saying fuck the shit yall want me to wear im goona wear my black trunks and etc he would've never made it. They didn't focus on SCSA like they did on The Rock and hogan and Bret.
I also give Jericho a hell of a lot more credit because of the same reason. He worked his ass off and had to earn everything he got. Plus he's great on both. I don't think Bret was as great on the mic plus he's a bitch for making them do the Montreal screw job. Vince tried a thousand different ways to work out an ending for that and Bret turned him down every time. So Vince did what he had to do and nobody knew what was going to happen except Vince.
Owen hart was just as good and Bret IMHO. He was great. He could wrestle just as good and he was open to everything and he was a better person to everybody.
So i take into account how hard they had to do it themselves like what CM punk had to do to get what he got compared to what Cena did to get his.
Daniel Bryan vs Randy Orton. That kind of stuff.
Handed to Randy Orton and he smokes cigs and has failed the wellness policy twice one more time and he's done for good.
CM punk doesn't smoke, drink, take any kind of drugs. Daniel Bryan isn't "straight edge" but he doesn't use anything that I know and but he might drink some alcohol here or there and with his injury might take pain killers. Something punk won't do at all.
They worked their asses off just to get to wwe. They told Heyman to fire punk every week when he was in charge of Ohio valley wrestling that was their developmental and Heyman said no. I'm not firing him because 1. He's good and 2. If you want to fire him you do it your fucking self. So it never happened and Heyman went with punk the whole time. While punk had to earn everything. Unlike randy Orton. Unlike hogan, Cena and others.
Jericho Austin Bryan michaels had to earn it.