NCAA makes a lot of sense

[CraigKressel]

Pretty much ban Stallions for a decade but Moore who was deeply involved in it and knew every detail obviously since he deleted tons of texts and called plays based on Stallions signals is only suspended a couple of games?

[CraigKressel]

So basically cheat, get caught then leave and the program is fine.

[ericberry14]

Not even a 1 year bowl ban lol

[CraigKressel]

Not even a 1 year bowl ban lol

The USC, OSU, Penn State bowl bans are comical now especially Penn State

It had nothing to do with any players or active coaches or on the field with anything to do with actual competition and they pretty much got the death penalty.

Tressel gets a 5 year ban, Pryor suspended for a year, other players suspended like half the season and a bowl ban that cost them a national championship over trading a few trophies for tattoos.

Yet actual cheating on the field results in nothing.

[FuckESPNdotCOM]

They should vacate Michigan's title* and take away 5 full years of scholarships. It wasn't just texting some recruits at the wrong time or a player selling memorabilia; it was full-on cheating with irrefutable evidence, going to other games to spy on other teams.

I mean I knew the NCAA was a joke when Boatz'n'Hoez got a $3 fine and a negative Google Maps review for decades of dirty money operations headlined by a Ponzi schemer. Pedd State got a $4 fine instead when their coach was raping little boys for decades... Yeah, they baleeted 11 years or something of wins... then reinstated them all a few years later.

Tennessee just told them to kick rocks and I don't even know what happened, if anything.

The stupidest part is cooperating seems to get you a bigger punishment. :ays


Capitalism, ESPN, and the SEC destroyed college football anyway. The last straw was December 3, 2023.

[CraigKressel]

To make matters worse Akron got a bowl ban for not having good enough academic standards, completely off the field issue.

[CraigKressel]

They should vacate Michigan's title* and take away 5 full years of scholarships. It wasn't just texting some recruits at the wrong time or a player selling memorabilia; it was full-on cheating with irrefutable evidence, going to other games to spy on other teams.

I mean I knew the NCAA was a joke when Boatz'n'Hoez got a $3 fine and a negative Google Maps review for decades of dirty money operations headlined by a Ponzi schemer. Pedd State got a $4 fine instead when their coach was raping little boys for decades... Yeah, they baleeted 11 years or something of wins... then reinstated them all a few years later.

Tennessee just told them to kick rocks and I don't even know what happened, if anything.

The stupidest part is cooperating seems to get you a bigger punishment. :ays


Capitalism, ESPN, and the SEC destroyed college football anyway. The last straw was December 3, 2023.

Lets be honest they fucked up Penn State and it was all the fans, players and coaches that had nothing to do with it that got fucked.

Sandusky went to prison, Paterno fired/died in shame, everyone that knew about it had their lives ruined I think that was enough, it had nothing to do with playing football or getting a competitive edge, that is what the NCAA is for, the police/university or conference should be handling an off the field issue that doesn't involve anyone currently on the staff not the NCAA, the NCAA is about fair competition and organizing it not about retired coaches breaking the law at a teams facilities.

[FuckESPNdotCOM]

They should vacate Michigan's title* and take away 5 full years of scholarships. It wasn't just texting some recruits at the wrong time or a player selling memorabilia; it was full-on cheating with irrefutable evidence, going to other games to spy on other teams.

I mean I knew the NCAA was a joke when Boatz'n'Hoez got a $3 fine and a negative Google Maps review for decades of dirty money operations headlined by a Ponzi schemer. Pedd State got a $4 fine instead when their coach was raping little boys for decades... Yeah, they baleeted 11 years or something of wins... then reinstated them all a few years later.

Tennessee just told them to kick rocks and I don't even know what happened, if anything.

The stupidest part is cooperating seems to get you a bigger punishment. :ays


Capitalism, ESPN, and the SEC destroyed college football anyway. The last straw was December 3, 2023.

Lets be honest they fucked up Penn State and it was all the fans, players and coaches that had nothing to do with it that got fucked.

Sandusky went to prison, Paterno fired/died in shame, everyone that knew about it had their lives ruined I think that was enough, it had nothing to do with playing football or getting a competitive edge, that is what the NCAA is for, the police/university or conference should be handling an off the field issue that doesn't involve anyone currently on the staff not the NCAA, the NCAA is about fair competition and organizing it not about retired coaches breaking the law at a teams facilities.

Do you think raping kids isn't a big deal? 11 years worth of wins was nothing. Paterno covered for a child rapist. He fucking knew about it. He absolutely didn't deserve those wins as long as Sandusky was on staff, especially after he was informed. It was systemic, not just Sandusky being a fucking faggot child molester. For them to reverse that decision was horrible, basically saying the child victims don't matter and raping kids and subsequent cover-ups are simply fineable offenses (or whatever nothingburger "penalties" were not reversed).

The players got a free immediate transfer. Who gives a shit about the coaches other than Paterno and Sandusky in this case? Nobody's saying the others were bad (although anyone who knew was partially culpable). Fans can fuck off if they think systemic child abuse isn't worth a few years of wins. Boo-fucking-hoo. If they still showed support for the program that was guilty of that shit after it came out, they can die in a fire.

The problem is a lot of off-the-field stuff affects on-the-field stuff. PEDs can be prescribed and taken off the field but it affects the player. Academic cheating results in now-ineligible players playing in games they shouldn't have been allowed to play in.

The big thing they've done wrong with a lot of these is vacating regular season games. They should be forfeits. I don't think Washington should "win" the 2023 title* by forfeit.

[CraigKressel]

They should vacate Michigan's title* and take away 5 full years of scholarships. It wasn't just texting some recruits at the wrong time or a player selling memorabilia; it was full-on cheating with irrefutable evidence, going to other games to spy on other teams.

I mean I knew the NCAA was a joke when Boatz'n'Hoez got a $3 fine and a negative Google Maps review for decades of dirty money operations headlined by a Ponzi schemer. Pedd State got a $4 fine instead when their coach was raping little boys for decades... Yeah, they baleeted 11 years or something of wins... then reinstated them all a few years later.

Tennessee just told them to kick rocks and I don't even know what happened, if anything.

The stupidest part is cooperating seems to get you a bigger punishment. :ays


Capitalism, ESPN, and the SEC destroyed college football anyway. The last straw was December 3, 2023.

Lets be honest they fucked up Penn State and it was all the fans, players and coaches that had nothing to do with it that got fucked.

Sandusky went to prison, Paterno fired/died in shame, everyone that knew about it had their lives ruined I think that was enough, it had nothing to do with playing football or getting a competitive edge, that is what the NCAA is for, the police/university or conference should be handling an off the field issue that doesn't involve anyone currently on the staff not the NCAA, the NCAA is about fair competition and organizing it not about retired coaches breaking the law at a teams facilities.

Do you think raping kids isn't a big deal? 11 years worth of wins was nothing. Paterno covered for a child rapist. He fucking knew about it. He absolutely didn't deserve those wins as long as Sandusky was on staff, especially after he was informed. It was systemic, not just Sandusky being a fucking faggot child molester. For them to reverse that decision was horrible, basically saying the child victims don't matter and raping kids and subsequent cover-ups are simply fineable offenses (or whatever nothingburger "penalties" were not reversed).

The players got a free immediate transfer. Who gives a shit about the coaches other than Paterno and Sandusky in this case? Nobody's saying the others were bad (although anyone who knew was partially culpable). Fans can fuck off if they think systemic child abuse isn't worth a few years of wins. Boo-fucking-hoo. If they still showed support for the program that was guilty of that shit after it came out, they can die in a fire.

The problem is a lot of off-the-field stuff affects on-the-field stuff. PEDs can be prescribed and taken off the field but it affects the player. Academic cheating results in now-ineligible players playing in games they shouldn't have been allowed to play in.

The big thing they've done wrong with a lot of these is vacating regular season games. They should be forfeits. I don't think Washington should "win" the 2023 title* by forfeit.

Yea what does this have to do with Christian Hackenberg and Bill Obrien and all the players on the team and the fans though. Put the people in prison or fire them that are responsible, it has nothing to do with the players and fans, why are you ruining some guys chance at the NFL or causing someone to have to move to another state or fans that pay to watch the games team suck for 5 years cause of it?

Its fucking dumb period it has nothing to do with on the field performance and that is what the NCAA was for is to make sure on the field performance is fair, it isnt for investigating a former coaches crimes.

[CraigKressel]

It wasnt about the 11 years of wins it was about the bowl ban, and scholarship limitations etc.

This is the time where they should have done a Michigan like punishment where they targeted the coaches and admin involved specifically and financially punished the school rather than punishing the players cause there wasn't any sort of cheating or professionalism involved like Reggie Bush, Cam Newton or Michigan.

[CraigKressel]

I hate Penn State and Joe Paterno, Paternos ego was sickening that he wouldn't retire, and making up shit that he sent the plays in on notes when asked how he calls the plays when he isnt talking to anyone. But all they did was punish players, fans, coaches that had nothing to do with it, by the time the NCAA ruled on anything the admin, staff, etc that were involved in it were already fired, dead or in prison.

[CraigKressel]

So lets pretend you move from say Texas to Penn to go to Penn State as a player or coach, then all the sudden this shit comes out and the NCAA bowl bans and scholarship limits so you have to transfer to another school or lose your job because the NCAA was trying to appease the public over it, is that fair?

The Michigan thing all the players/coaches knew what the deal was that committed after 2023, and I would imagine all the players/coaches on the team knew wtf was going on cause they were on the sidelines all jumping up and down signaling pass or run vs Ohio State on video. Blake Corrum had a fucking business with Stallions and didn't get any punishment, how is that any different than what Reggie Bush did?

[CraigKressel]

Where does this say it has a job to absolutely hammer a school because a former coach broke a law that had nothing to do with playing football on the field? Lets pretend an offensive coordinator got in a DUI accident and killed someone, should the school get a 2 year bowl ban and lose 25 scholarships for 4 years cause of that?


1. Rulemaking and Governance

The NCAA establishes rules for eligibility, recruiting, scholarships, and amateurism to ensure that college sports maintain their educational character.

It sets competition rules, season lengths, and championships to provide structure across all member institutions.

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This includes limits on scholarships, recruiting contact periods, and financial aid to keep competition somewhat balanced.

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It enforces health and safety standards for players (e.g., concussion protocols, training regulations).

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